Olsen Doesn’t Like USOC Qualification

Olsen Doesn’t Like USOC Qualification

  • Posted by Drew Epperley
  • On April 21, 2009
  • 12 Comments
  • Ben Olsen, Lamar Hunt US Open Cup

You know, Ben Olsen may just have a point about the US Open Cup qualification process.

“I am still shocked at how you win it and don’t get a berth into the final round. But it’s always about building a bigger case for trophies. As disappointing as last year was, we still managed to hold something up. I love the Open Cup. I love the history of it and the format of it is great. I hope we continue to do well in it.”

What do you think? I agree I think the club that wins (MLS, USL, PDL, amateur club team) the Cup should get an auto-pass to the final round in the next year.

Is there anything wrong with that idea? It could help make the tournament better in the end.

Anyways, Ben Olsen and DC United begin their USOC title defense tomorrow night in RFK against FC Dallas. I may be doing some live twittering during the game.

  • Ginge

    Only Liverpool get a "previous year's champion" expemption for knock-out tournaments.

  • SDM

    Perhaps if Ben's teammates had not been so terrible last year, they wouldn't have to qualify this year. They have only themselves to blame. Pipe down and play.

  • Only Liverpool get a “previous year’s champion” expemption for knock-out tournaments.

  • SDM

    Perhaps if Ben’s teammates had not been so terrible last year, they wouldn’t have to qualify this year. They have only themselves to blame. Pipe down and play.

  • Media Man

    The format sucks.<br />
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    There is no reason why you can't have a 7-round Open Cup that includes every MLS (15), USL (20) and PDL (78)club. That still leaves room for 15 amateur teams to qualify in the field of 128.<br />
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    Even with expansion coming in MLS and USL, you'll have over 10 amateur teams, all the semi-pro teams, and all the pro teams involved.

  • KCB

    US Open Cup needs divisions. Amateur teams should not be competing in a &quot;serious&quot; domestic tournament against professional counter parts. Are there amateur clubs in the FA Cup? No. Sometimes you need to forget about tradition and just starting doing things the correct way. MLS, USL-1 &amp; 2. That's it. If fans are supposed to take this tournament seriously, it's time to make it a serious tournament.

  • Media Man

    The format sucks.

    There is no reason why you can’t have a 7-round Open Cup that includes every MLS (15), USL (20) and PDL (78)club. That still leaves room for 15 amateur teams to qualify in the field of 128.

    Even with expansion coming in MLS and USL, you’ll have over 10 amateur teams, all the semi-pro teams, and all the pro teams involved.

  • KCB

    US Open Cup needs divisions. Amateur teams should not be competing in a “serious” domestic tournament against professional counter parts. Are there amateur clubs in the FA Cup? No. Sometimes you need to forget about tradition and just starting doing things the correct way. MLS, USL-1 & 2. That’s it. If fans are supposed to take this tournament seriously, it’s time to make it a serious tournament.

  • Kevin

    KCB:<br />
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    Just because it's English doesn't mean it's necessarily &quot;right.&quot; This is a traditional tournament, and MLS has found that when they tamper with tradition bad things happen- see old shootouts to end games, the stopping clock that counted down, and even now, with the restrictive salary cap. <br />
    <br />
    You can't make it &quot;serious&quot; by merely kicking out the amateurs who have worked so hard to earn this recognition; USSF needs to add more incentives for players and fans alike, publicity, novelties for fans (like free tickets or other promotions), and other elements that would help teams take it more seriously, in order for it to be considered a big deal. If you'll look at the FA Cup, many teams (if not most) play their 'B' teams because they know that league play is far more important. Same applies here. Sometimes, it's essentially an MLS team with USL players vs a real USL team. <br />
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    Plus, MLS has no say in the USOC. It's all the USSF's call, and they see no reason to change a thing.

  • Kevin

    KCB:

    Just because it’s English doesn’t mean it’s necessarily “right.” This is a traditional tournament, and MLS has found that when they tamper with tradition bad things happen- see old shootouts to end games, the stopping clock that counted down, and even now, with the restrictive salary cap.

    You can’t make it “serious” by merely kicking out the amateurs who have worked so hard to earn this recognition; USSF needs to add more incentives for players and fans alike, publicity, novelties for fans (like free tickets or other promotions), and other elements that would help teams take it more seriously, in order for it to be considered a big deal. If you’ll look at the FA Cup, many teams (if not most) play their ‘B’ teams because they know that league play is far more important. Same applies here. Sometimes, it’s essentially an MLS team with USL players vs a real USL team.

    Plus, MLS has no say in the USOC. It’s all the USSF’s call, and they see no reason to change a thing.

  • Alex

    &quot;Are there amateur clubs in the FA Cup? No.&quot;<br />
    <br />
    But there are…<br />
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    Not including all of the US-based MLS clubs is a surefire way to kill any enthusiasm for the USOC. Not sure why the USSF wants to keep out so much of the top level competition through preliminary rounds – no other national cup operates like that, nor any other sports competition I can think of.

  • Alex

    “Are there amateur clubs in the FA Cup? No.”

    But there are…

    Not including all of the US-based MLS clubs is a surefire way to kill any enthusiasm for the USOC. Not sure why the USSF wants to keep out so much of the top level competition through preliminary rounds – no other national cup operates like that, nor any other sports competition I can think of.