Draft and Trade Talk

Draft and Trade Talk

  • Posted by Drew Epperley
  • On January 8, 2009
  • 8 Comments
  • 2009 MLS SuperDraft, Adrian Serioux, Trades, Wilman Conde
The trades all center around Mo Johnston and Toronto FC.

The trades all center around Mo Johnston and Toronto FC.

With a couple days away from the MLS Combine, the trade rumors are heating up around the league. Lots of teams are looking to move up and even down in next week’s draft. Others are looking to deal not only for picks but for other players.

Some of this below is rumors and talk going around the league circles and other is just pure speculation on my part. (I have links for some and others were sent into my inbox)

With next week’s draft a few teams have multiple picks in the first round as well as plenty more in later rounds. (NOTE: I’m still curious to see what comes out of the deals that involved Supplemental picks from this past year. It doesn’t appear that any have translated into new picks for any club or that any club has received any sort of compensation for it (though I would imagine there will be a tiny allocation on the league’s part for those deals).)

Anyways, back to the trade discussion and draft thought on hand here. I think I will pretty much go team-by-team here in what they are looking to do or not to do here as we head into the draft. Some teams are very quiet, while others are talking up a storm.

Feel free to pipe in your own thoughts on what you think your club will do here.

Chicago Fire: A little talk out there about the club wanting to actually deal defender Wilman Conde to the best bidder. While I figure they would just transfer him elsewhere it seems as though that may not be happening. Right now a couple clubs could really use a strong central defender like Conde (LA, Toronto, Dallas to name a few).

I don’t see the Fire dealing Conde to Toronto for that number 2 pick that everyone is talking about. Conde for the number two just doesn’t seem to be good enough in my book if I am the Fire. I think there would have to be a package of picks/allocation/player in the deal to make it work.

Chivas USA: The AmeriGoats have two early picks in the draft and nothing else. I don’t see them dealing either pick unless the right deal is presented to them. They have some work to do still this offseason but I doubt the trade rumors with them will pick up until closer to the start of the season like last year.

Colorado Rapids: Right now it looks like the Gary Smith and the Rapids have a slew of picks in this year’s draft. Kind of similar to Kansas City last year. The Rapids have drafted pretty well in the past but have been unable to see any of that positive drafting on the field. I doubt they will be able to get into the first round unless they find a club that is willing to part with their first rounder (maybe a Salt Lake or Toronto?). More than likely this club is hitting the transfer market for impact players instead of focusing on the draft. I do however look for them to deal one or two of their later picks.

Columbus Crew: Three picks, all the last of each round. With Chad Marshall back in the mix they won’t have to worry about finding a replacement in this draft so expect them to stay like they are and stock up on depth here while they scout for another impact scorer in the transfer window.

DC United: I think United is sitting pretty at number 6 and 7. They more than likely won’t trade up with those picks however. Most of the people I’ve talk to about DC feel that they will do nothing and stay put. Good thing too because they should be able to land two solid players if they stay where they are at. I only see them moving up if they feel they have to get someone earlier than number 6. They could also move a pick to land a veteran defender too, similar to what New England did a year ago in dealing for Chris Albright.

FC Dallas: A lot of talk with this club in moving up to that number 2 spot from Toronto. The Hoops have the number 5 pick right now as well as another first rounder at number 11. Some reason the big talk is the club will send Canadian defender Adrian Serioux and a pick to Toronto so they can land Maryland’s Omar Gonzalez. SBI and a few others seem to believe that deal will happen.

I’m in the camp that thinks its a silly move for Dallas to make. Sure moving up is nice and all but Serioux is viewed to be worth more than a number two pick here in Dallas. Plus those around the club that I’ve spoken with say that Schalles Hydman isn’t all for having more younger players around. Remember the club drafted a ton of young guys last year. Trading a solid veteran for another young player wouldn’t be wise in my book.

Edit: I’ve also heard word of another deal floating out there as a reader was nice enough to send it in (I won’t give out their name or anything here to cover them). Apparently the deal that could be in the works is a three team deal with Dallas, LA and Toronto. Dallas would be sending Serioux to Toronto and would get the number 2 pick; LA would send Eddie Lewis to Dallas and Ante Jazic to Toronto; LA would get the 4th (and maybe the 5th) and 18th pick as well as Johann Smith from Toronto. Interesting. Probably unlikely to happen but still interesting.

Houston Dynamo: This may be the quietest team come draft day. They will wait their turn and select a couple solid players as usual. They will have to do that as they only have two late picks.

Kansas City Wizards: A team that needs to make an impact again this year. While they won’t be trading up to number one this year they do have options I think to make some movement around the draft. With the draft full of solid strikers I doubt they will make a play to move up any more than where they are at in the first round but they could do something to get one of Toronto’s picks if they really want to. I just don’t see who they have that is worth trading in return for one of those early picks. Peter Vermes is working on something, that much I expect.

LA Galaxy: Where to begin with this one? Right now there are plenty of rumors surrounding this club and I do expect Bruce Arena to make a deal or two. Four picks is usually plenty for most clubs but I see him trading for another pick if possible here. A lot depends on cap space if Landon Donovan spends more time in Germany than what his loan states. They need talent that can make an impact right away and be cheap at the same time. So trades seem likely here. How many is the real question.

New England Revolution: One of the other clubs that is said to be wanting to move up in the draft. Two first rounders, well, late first rounders could make it tough to move up as far as number two. I agree with the notion that they are more likely to go for the number 4 pick than the number 2. They have holes to fill in defense and in the midfield (plus they need attacking options too). I sort of see them staying where they are at and Steve Nicol lucking into a player that shouldn’t fall as far as the 10th spot (like a Sam Cronin).

New York Red Bulls: Lord knows what this club is really up to. They need defensive help in a bad way but I doubt they will do much in the draft to fix that. Only three picks to show for I would imagine they won’t be dealing unless it is to deal out of the first round and into a pair of second or third rounders.

Word has it they are looking to deal their open DP spot to clear some cap space and get a couple solid players in return. Smart move if they can pull it off. It won’t be during the draft, that much I can tell you.

Real Salt Lake: Another club looking to move in the draft. They would probably be looking to move to that number 4 spot to grab Sam Cronin or Jeremy Hall if that is the case. Some up in Salt Lake City that I’ve spoken with are saying Jason Kreis is very high on Cronin. They could trade a defender or two away to get up in the draft. Otherwise I would imagine they will just hold on to the two picks that they own right now.

San Jose Earthquakes: Limited with the number of picks again this year. They will more than likley focus on the pressing needs in defensive midfield and in defense really. I doubt they will draft a striker here as I believe they are looking to sign one in the transfer window.

Seattle Sounders FC: New kids on the block have a few picks to play with. They won’t deal that top pick unless Sigi gets a deal that is just too good to pass up. In other words I doubt it will happen this year. I would imagine they will use that top pick on a striker and use the rest on their defense if they don’t deal them away for players or allocation.

Toronto FC: Anytime you have three first round picks you are gonna be talked about a lot here. The number 2, 4, and even 11 are all up for trades as far as I am concerned. Not a lot of people are mentioning that 11th pick as most believe the Reds will use it on O’Brien White. I think they could still deal it and snag White in a later round. More than likely that second pick will get traded away. For some odd reason I just see some myster club stepping up here and playing the deal game to do it (could be LA actually). More than likely this club will deal their top two picks and get some solid veterans in return (something Mo Johnston is high on doing so they can still focus on signing a DP). A lot of dealing will start and finish with Toronto in the coming week. I’m sure Mo is smiling for that reason.

More SuperDraft talk on the way in the coming days! Stay tune!

  • Jason

    &quot;The Rapids have drafted pretty well in the past but have been unable to see any of that positive drafting on the field.&quot;<br />
    <br />
    Really?<br />
    <br />
    Omar Cummings – 3rd Round 2007<br />
    Nick LaBrocca – 3rd Round 2007<br />
    Jacob Peterson – 2nd Round 2006<br />
    John DiRaimondo – 1st Round 2007 Supplemental<br />
    Kosuke Kimura – 3rd Round 2007 Supplemental<br />
    Jordan Harvey – 1st Round 2006 Supplemental<br />
    <br />
    4 starters and 2 regular subs in the last 3 years. And that doesn't include Hunter Freeman who's moved on to Scandinavia.

  • WVHooligan

    Sure things have been slightly positive on the field for that bunch but they haven't lead the Rapids into any sort of playoff success recently. Also, let's not forgot how inconsistent this club has been over the last couple years. So yes, really.

  • “The Rapids have drafted pretty well in the past but have been unable to see any of that positive drafting on the field.”

    Really?

    Omar Cummings – 3rd Round 2007
    Nick LaBrocca – 3rd Round 2007
    Jacob Peterson – 2nd Round 2006
    John DiRaimondo – 1st Round 2007 Supplemental
    Kosuke Kimura – 3rd Round 2007 Supplemental
    Jordan Harvey – 1st Round 2006 Supplemental

    4 starters and 2 regular subs in the last 3 years. And that doesn’t include Hunter Freeman who’s moved on to Scandinavia.

    • Sure things have been slightly positive on the field for that bunch but they haven’t lead the Rapids into any sort of playoff success recently. Also, let’s not forgot how inconsistent this club has been over the last couple years. So yes, really.

  • Jason

    Yeah, but that isn't the draft, that's the coaching.

  • Yeah, but that isn’t the draft, that’s the coaching.

  • fred

    TFC want Justin Mapp from Chicago. This is the only player that interests them. I got that from someone close to the organization. As far as the draft goes, TFC are interested in a midfielder from Wake Forest. They may trade the other 2 picks but i'm not too sure about Adrian Serioux. Mo drafted him and then traded him because he couldn't stand him.

  • fred

    TFC want Justin Mapp from Chicago. This is the only player that interests them. I got that from someone close to the organization. As far as the draft goes, TFC are interested in a midfielder from Wake Forest. They may trade the other 2 picks but i’m not too sure about Adrian Serioux. Mo drafted him and then traded him because he couldn’t stand him.